"That wasn't what I was saying, though. Now you're just talking in circles," she huffs, frustrated. "Because that doesn't answer the question of which one you were before, rather than now. But okay, say you're both now, too. What is the disembodied concept of 'the moon' or 'the tower'? I mean. Those are actual things, not concepts. Justice I can get, there's some spiritual force that wants things to be right and just and good, but how can there be some spiritual force that wants things to be 'the moon'?"