"Sounds to me like he's saying he won't know until he actually wins," Stone says, sounding grouchy. "That's not very helpful for those of us stuck in this flawed game of yours, but it's a start, I guess." He pauses, and looks fully at ROSE now. "What about you? What are you here trying to get out of this? IF you're like him, you're trying to win, too, and you probably have your own goals."