The Powers That Be ([personal profile] powersthatbe) wrote2018-01-10 06:52 pm

Ouroboros Retrograde - plot role info

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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] whatspringislike 2018-02-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)

He can certainly have picked up Merge on his own - teaching thread is only necessary if he's keeping it as a skill & it's a second skill.

The Starquakes are some kind of search, originating in deeper levels of dream by some consciousness. At first they mainly affected terrain because they thought terrain was what they were looking for. Now they're chasing people because they've realized people are what they're looking for.

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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] papacerberus 2018-02-10 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright then, what will Merge tell him about Liminal and the wills behind it?

Excellent. So what can the Harbinger of Will do since that's... less clear of an Archetype than Storms and will going Harbinger offer him more insight on why they're seeking people, and/or unveil the wills behind the Starquakes a bit?
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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] whatspringislike 2018-02-11 12:34 am (UTC)(link)

I would say the Harbinger of Will could imbue areas woth a rudimentary consciousness and purpose.

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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] papacerberus 2018-02-11 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
That's actually kind of awesome.

But, um, you didn't answer the other question? Would Merge on Liminal give him anything or have consequences, or would it just fail?
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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] rosewater_path 2018-02-11 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Merge in Liminal will show him what Sayf was shown: a yin-yang globe with two beings at work inside it, which we can thread or handwave. As far as insight: he will realize that people are not "becoming" Harbingers - the consciousnesses behind the Starquakes are using Harbingers as extensions of their Will, with very little understanding of what they are doing.
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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] papacerberus 2018-02-11 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Excellent, thank you! If he'll be able to interact at all, we can thread, otherwise, we can just handwave that he saw the thing.

And that is very important information, and also very worrying. Time to talk with other Oracles about this and see if they can Oracle any information about what the consciousnesses behind the Starquakes are.
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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] papacerberus 2018-02-13 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Here's the thread: https://synodiporia.dreamwidth.org/197931.html?thread=85838379#cmt85838379

If there isn't anything more he can get from that, just say so! Otherwise, let's do the thing and see what he can learn. (Also, he's blind so he doesn't process things as visual information anymore, so if that would change things up for him somehow, let me know)

Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] powersthatare 2018-02-13 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I think that would be the major takeaway! He could hear the Wills as two instruments at work in a space large enough to be designed for many more.
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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] papacerberus 2018-02-13 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, interesting, thanks!
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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] papacerberus 2018-02-13 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Another question, re: Lupa going Harbinger. If he reads his own will after this, will he be able to pick out any lingering influence of the Starquakes' wills within his own?

Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] powersthatare 2018-02-13 03:28 am (UTC)(link)

Yes, but it's latent, sleeping, when he isn't actively Harbingered up.

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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] papacerberus 2018-02-13 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Would someone with a correct Archetype be able to use that to track the Starquake's wills back to the source deeper in the Dream somewhere?
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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] whatspringislike 2018-02-13 03:31 am (UTC)(link)

That... sounds like it could work, with an Archetype that permitted that kind of tracking, yes!!

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Re: Council of Senpai, Double Valence-Era - Lupa

[personal profile] papacerberus 2018-02-13 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
excellent