The Powers That Be ([personal profile] powersthatbe) wrote2018-11-11 07:49 pm

Shade's Retreat privileged info

If you're not playing the Hunter or a Shade victim for this walkabout, please do not read this post.

If you ARE, please check in here, pop over here to let everyone know who you're playing, and use this post to coordinate shenanigans. If you have any questions, please leave them here, and the walkabout runners will get back to you as soon as possible.
finalizes: PB: Tyler Cristopher (human: grow a beard)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-11-14 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Checking in and a question!

I'm thinking about the personal trauma being that he lost his family to a Shade - wife, parents, children, whatever there was. He was the only survivor, managed to kill the Shade (potentially in the process having to end the life of whoseever body it was occupying at the time) and then vowed to make sure that as few people as possible would have to suffer the same.

The question is, how does Saffron come in. I could simply not infiltrate her at all, but I'd rather keep her with him, so I'm wondering if ghosts exist and if Laughs could be having one around - aka, could Laughs' overlay have in his desperation latched onto the only one of his family members who developed a ghost, his youngest daughter, and have been lugging her around with himself ever since?
Edited 2018-11-14 16:32 (UTC)
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-11-14 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ghosts exist! Ghosts are...not really looked upon favorably by hunters, any more than other supernatural beings are, but if he bound her to something he carrying with him to render her safe, he could probably get away with it by virtue of reputation. Especially since Shade victims almost never leave ghosts - it pretty much only happens if the Shade is interrupted while feeding, so it would be an interesting anomaly in the eyes of the locals.
finalizes: (Default)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-11-14 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That'd work quite well then.

What would her mental state be (ie as it was in life or would it have detoriated, or...) and if she's bound to an item, would the ghost just hover over that item, or would she be able to move it if it was something movable (like a doll or something)? Or if she was bound into an animal would she be able to exert control over the animal?
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-11-15 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Given that she'd be a relatively fresh ghost, having died within living memory, her mental state wouldn't have deteriorated so much as stayed largely the same. Ghosts tend to be static, so she wouldn't be able to mature or to learn from experience - she'll be the little girl she was when she died until she moves on, or lingers long enough to start losing her grasp on who she was when she was alive.

If she's bound to an item such that she's able to move around, she'd have to stay within about ten feet of it. If there's a way to bind a ghost so that it could manipulate an object or control an animal, it's not something Laughs would have conceivably been able to learn, and would be considered pretty dark necromancy - shades of the horrors conjured up by the last Emperor in the bad old days.
finalizes: (Default)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-11-15 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
Cool, thanks!
finalizes: (Default)

Re: Hunter (Laughs)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-11-22 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
So question. After the disaster with Body, Shadwell would probably try to purify the Shade without extracting it first, either the second or the third time. Harder to do, but potentially less running away. How would that go?
reallymean: (Default)

Re: Hunter (Laughs)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-11-22 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
He can try if he can catch another Shade victim, but it's likely to go poorly, since possessing someone offers the Shade protection against purification magic.

Please give us a summary of how the confrontation with Body went down so we can use the details in the next mingle post.
untailed: (Default)

Re: Hunter (Laughs)

[personal profile] untailed 2018-11-22 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
they caused some ruckus, and the shade exploded its host from the inside, shadwell didn't get hurt

thread here: https://synodiporia.dreamwidth.org/234239.html?thread=103280639#cmt103280639

sorry im working and don't have much time i can try to give a better summary later
finalizes: (Default)

Re: Hunter (Laughs)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-12-03 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
So! Shadwell got the Shade out of Maxwell's body by being snoopy and cornering it without knowing if it was really in Max's body, so the Shade decided to retreat and find a new host.
reincarnatedprince: (Default)

[personal profile] reincarnatedprince 2018-11-12 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with being victim #2 and also checking in.
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-11-24 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Things the Shade would know for this possession:

1) The Hunter doesn't have any problem with doing things that will get his own kind dead. You probably don't want to bind yourself to this host even if it would be convenient for feeding - being able to get out of this host and into the next fast will probably be better for your survival.

2) Speaking of feeding, you need an energy top-up fast. Getting away from that maniac took a lot out of you, and you need to be ready. Fortunately, there are a lot of humans to eat from so you don't suck this host completely dry and can possibly reuse him after he recovers, if you absolutely need to.

3) Some of these humans are really weird. You can't trust them, because who trusts a steak, but they might be useful if you have to resort to (ugh) fighting instead of running and hiding.

Please comment by next Friday with anything the Shade learns while possessing Mamoru that you think might be useful to pass along to the next victim!
reincarnatedprince: (Prince ⊕ Serious)

[personal profile] reincarnatedprince 2018-12-01 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing useful here other than maybe "the ghost girl is highly observant".

Also is it safe to assume that Maxwell will likely need a lot of bed rest for a day or two to recover from this?
Edited 2018-12-01 04:20 (UTC)
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-12-01 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
That's safe to assume, yeah.
helborn: (Default)

[personal profile] helborn 2018-11-12 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Checking in for final victim!

Will the Shade be able to use, say, the Network?
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-11-12 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Shade, no. Victim, yes.
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-12-20 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
1) The Hunter doesn't have any problem with doing things that will get his own kind dead. You probably don't want to bind yourself to this host even if it would be convenient for feeding - being able to get out of this host and into the next fast will probably be better for your survival.

2) The Hunter has a ghost girl he's using as a spy, and she's rather observant for a ghost. You might be able to come up with a way to use this, but until you do, you should avoid her.

3) Some of the guests here are very definitely not human. Unfortunately, they're just as happy to murder their own kind as the Hunter is, so they're worthless as allies, but you might still be able to use them, if you can just pit them against the Hunter. That might crack the wards enough for you to escape - though the fact that some of them seem to have learned to detect you even when you're concealed within a host might make that difficult.

Remember, the Shade has access to Casper's memories, but not vice-versa - he'll recall what it does while it's possessing him, but can't give any insight into what it's done in the past or what it's planning. It also has access to any of his skills that aren't sourced from Liminal Space, the Network, or the Arcana. Touch base with Gail if you haven't already to decide how the Shade is transmitted from Stone to Casper, and enjoy!
helborn: (Default)

[personal profile] helborn 2018-12-20 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
We haven't totally figured things out and I don't know what to do since we haven't finalized things but I know time is running down.
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-12-20 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you comfortable handwaving the details of the transfer based on what you have worked out?
helborn: (Default)

[personal profile] helborn 2018-12-20 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think so... pop it on the latest walkabout post, then?
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-12-20 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Pop it wherever you want. There isn't going to be another official mingle, but you can post your own if you want to.
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-11-12 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Checking in for Victim #3.
powers_that_hart: (TOBI KESSLER)

Re: Shade (Allura, Mamoru, Stone, Casper)

[personal profile] powers_that_hart 2018-11-12 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Mr. Body checking in!
finalizes: (Default)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-11-14 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yo! What kind of character is Tobi's overlay, how well does the Shade keep up with their life, etc - essentially, what would Laughs' overlay be able to glance about them?
powers_that_hart: (TOBI KESSLER)

[personal profile] powers_that_hart 2018-11-15 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Tobias is a quiet man who mostly keeps to himself. He was an accountant, stuck to a regimented routine, didn't have many friends, liked to drink and read books and occasionally would say something that he clearly thinks is a joke that... no one else gets. When particularly drunk he would boast about a trick he'd pulled on his higher-ups at his last firm, but he'll never say what the trick was.

Right now he's looking particularly run-down, like he hasn't been sleeping well, and he's a little nervous. He sticks to himself, as per usual, but he hasn't been drinking as much - or rather, he comes down to the bar and will order a drink and apparently sip off of it, but he never gets more than one drink and he never gets properly drunk anymore. He keeps trying to awkwardly go sit with other groups and talk to people, but he's still just as socially inept so people mostly just side-eye him.
scarsolderthanyou: (Default)

[personal profile] scarsolderthanyou 2018-11-13 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Stone checking in!

You say below that the Shade can't communicate with the network, but the host can... while possessed? So like, they could say "hey guess what something's controlling my body right now"? Or are they cut off for the duration?
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-11-13 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
The Shade can't access the Network. If it's possessing an Investigator, they can unless they're severed for some reason - they're conscious the entire time, they're just cut off from any ability to affect the physical world. Which the Network isn't.
finalizes: (Default)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-12-07 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have plans for how Stone catches and loses the Shade, and would you like Shadwell involved somewhere?
scarsolderthanyou: (Default)

[personal profile] scarsolderthanyou 2018-12-08 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I have no solid plans. I had vaguely thought something would happen with him and Allura, but I could have him just be in the wrong place at the wrong time and handy to jump to. He takes naps in weird places, and doesn't sleep as much at night as he should, so he could easily just be alone somewhere.

I do know he's planning on letting EVERYONE on the network know he's possessed, so investigators will probably converge on him. Or Gale, at least.
finalizes: (Default)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-12-08 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
it could be interesting to have Shadwell observe him (if he is already behaving weirdly, Shade behaviour will probably stand out less so he'll be less sure if he's really possessed) and not do anything and then somehow witness investigators taking care of him?

like

let Shade!Stone has an awkward stalker
scarsolderthanyou: (Default)

[personal profile] scarsolderthanyou 2018-12-08 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
ahaha XD oh you should totally do that. since Stone is weird already it WOULD be kinda hard to tell, at least for Shadwell who doesn't know him that well

I'll put up a plurk later for plotting for the investigators! I'll ping you in it
finalizes: (Default)

[personal profile] finalizes 2018-12-08 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
excellent >D
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-12-12 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Things the Shade would know for Stone's possession:

1) The Hunter doesn't have any problem with doing things that will get his own kind dead. You probably don't want to bind yourself to this host even if it would be convenient for feeding - being able to get out of this host and into the next fast will probably be better for your survival.

2) The Hunter has a ghost girl he's using as a spy, and she's rather observant for a ghost. You might be able to come up with a way to use this, but until you do, you should avoid her.

3) Some of the guests here are very definitely not human. Unfortunately, they're just as happy to murder their own kind as the Hunter is - one of them tore you last host's throat out with his teeth, how barbaric - so they're worthless as allies, but you might still be able to use them, if you can just pit them against the Hunter. That might crack the wards enough for you to escape.

Remember, the Shade has access to Stone's memories, but not vice-versa - he'll recall what it does while it's possessing him, but can't give any insight into what it's done in the past or what it's planning.

Please comment by next Monday with anything the Shade learns while possessing Stone that you think might be useful to pass on to the next victim.
scarsolderthanyou: (Default)

[personal profile] scarsolderthanyou 2018-12-18 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, he's probably going to have picked up that some of these non-human guests have some ability to sense him, because they're going to corner him/Stone at some point. Not sure how that's gonna fall out yet. I need to set it up (tomorrow prolly, ran out of time today). Most likely Stone is gonna get dead and the shade jumps to Casper in the process, but not sure what all transpires to make it happen.

Is there anything that CAN kill or contain the shade, besides Shadwell's ritual magic?
reallymean: (Default)

[personal profile] reallymean 2018-12-19 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
With the caveat that this is knowledge the Shade has but Stone does not:

Wards or binding can restrict its movement for as long as the magic lasts, which is usually not past the next sunrise. Any purification magic could harm or potentially kill it when it's outside a host. Ritual is not required, nor is it particularly common. It isn't aware of other human magics that can harm it, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

It's also vulnerable to other predatory spirits (not ghosts) - Shades will occasionally eat each other in the absence of another food source, and there are much nastier things out there than Shades.